Soshestvie-vo-adWe had a great time on Wednesday discussing Old Testament saints. Where were they before Christ died and rose, did Mary have OT heroes, are Adam and Eve saints and much more. I hope you enjoy this podcast.

Click HERE to listen to the show.

“The patriarchs, prophets, and certain other Old Testament figures have been and always will be honored as saints in all the Church’s liturgical traditions.” CCC 61

Questions Covered:

  • 16:11 – Are there people from thousands of years ago who didn’t know God who went to heaven?
  • 20:54 – How can someone (like Adam or Eve) become a saint without knowing Christ?
  • 23:34 – Do you consider Solomon to be a saint? Why or why not?
  • 31:08 – Why don’t we speak more about saints like Lazarus?
  • 34:54 – What sort of hope did the Old Testament saints have? Did they hope for heaven?
  • 37:22 – How did women enter the old covenant when the men were entered in by circumcision?
  • 44:18 – Where is it in the Bible that Lucifer thought he was the chosen one, but that Jesus was sent in his stead?
  • 46:15 – Is Eve considered to be a saint?
  • 48:53 – Were the people in Abraham’s day considered to be cavemen, or were cavemen before Abraham?
  • 51:05 – You used to be Baptist and lived a Christian life and believed you were saved. Now that you’re Catholic, do you still believe that?

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The_Ressurrection_of_ChristI am doing a show on Catholic Answers Live tonight (Wed., 1/16/19). The topic is OLD TESTAMENT SAINTS. Tune in at 6:00 PM Eastern at www.Catholic.com. You can listen to the podcast later too.

Adam and Eve have liturgical feast days, so do Isaiah, Jeremiah, King David and many others.

The Roman Martyrology (1600) lists saints recognized up to that point including many saints not in the Church’s general calendar. Some that it remembers are Habakkuk (Jan. 15); Isaiah (July 6); Daniel and Elias/Elijah (July 20 and 21); the seven Maccabees and their mother (Aug. 17); Abraham (Oct. 9); and King David (Dec. 29).

We in the West have not discussed it much, but the Eastern Churches remembers them every year.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states,

“The patriarchs, prophets, and certain other Old Testament figures have been and always will be honored as saints in all the Church’s liturgical traditions” (CCC 61).

48340dc324c6ca26bea274dc480c6789Here is an interesting article in the newsletter of the Association of Hebrew Catholics.

It not only explains the “sainthood” of Old Testament heroes, but gives a list of the dates for various prophets, kings, and virtuous men and women before Christ.

For the article and the calendar, click here.

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In answer to the question on air about the redemption of Adam and Eve, I promised a bit of information. The Catechism 489 states, “Throughout the Old Covenant the mission of many holy women prepared for that of Mary. At the very beginning there was Eve; despite her disobedience, she receives the promise of a posterity that will be victorious over the evil one, as well as the promise that she will be the mother of all the living.

Another quote CCC 635 “Today a great silence reigns on earth, a great silence and a great stillness. A great silence because the King is asleep. The earth trembled and is still because God has fallen asleep in the flesh and he has raised up all who have slept ever since the world began.… He has gone to search for Adam, our first father, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, he has gone to free from sorrow Adam in his bonds and Eve, captive with him—He who is both their God and the son of Eve.… “I am your God, who for your sake have become your son.… I order you, O sleeper, to awake. I did not create you to be a prisoner in hell. Rise from the dead, for I am the life of the dead.”

Soshestvie-vo-ad(Picture to right: Jesus raises Adam and Eve from their graves. Notice they are wearing halos. Notice a similar picture at the top of the post.)

One Journal I own states it well, though I don’t agree with the article overall:

“In this first dispensation, there is a clear illustration that the only way of salvation is by the grace and personal provision of God. After the judgment section of Chapter 3, the literal translation states that the Lord God himself “made garments of skin for Adam and for his wife, and He caused to clothe them.” The Lord God initiated and was the causative agent (Hiphil stem—“cause to”) of the personal redemption of Adam and Eve by providing a method of restoring the personal relationship with Him. Some conclude that the personal faith of Adam was expressed by naming his wife, Eve (living or life-giver), and believing that (strong textual emphasis) “she, she will be (the) mother of all living.” This act would have verified that he believed in the future promise of God (3:15) and in the prospect of continued life after judgment (3:20). In a similar way, having acknowledged that the Lord was the source of her first born son, Eve confirmed her personal faith in the Lord and His previous promises of children (3:15–16; 4:1).

“Considering that this was a possible theophany of God, the full impact of the statement may be realized. This would be Christ himself who had performed this sovereign act of divine grace for Adam and Eve, another Old Testament verification that Christ was involved providentially in the affairs of mankind from the beginning!”

Conservative Theological Journal Volume 2 2, no. 7 (1998): 455–456.

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The location of Jesus’s baptism

Happy Feast Day of the Baptism of Our Lord! Since we will be at the actual site of Jesus’ baptism in two weeks with a bus full of pilgrims, I thought I would share this post again.

This is an exciting development which helps establish the authentic baptismal site of Jesus. With the involvement of UNESCO the site will receive protection, funding and recognition. This is the place where the last three popes commemorated the Baptism of Our Lord.

Here are some articles about UNESCO’s decision and about the site:

  1. http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=27394
  2. http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1446
  3. www.BaptismSite.com

My audio of interview with Ave Maria Radio: https://avemariaradio.net/audio-archive/catholic-connection-february-9-2016-hour-2/

The Bible says in John 1:28, “This took place in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.” The authentic site is just above the northern tip of the Dead Sea, east of Jericho. The actual site is not on the Israel side of the Jordan, but on the Jordan side of the river.

IMG_8294Here is a picture of me standing in the exact spot that archaeology, the Bible and early Christians and pilgrims located the spot. The early Christians knew and built churches there to commemorate the site.

If you would like to join us in Jordan, contact Elizabeth at 800-727-1999, 150. We will be visiting Jordan once every year on one of our trips to Israel. Register for these small groups or get your name on the list now since all of our trips have been selling out.

This 2-minute video link below takes a few seconds to load, but wait… it is nice and you will see where we are today. With Elijah and Jesus on the banks of the Jordan River in Jordan. Produced by the Jordanian Tourist Bureau.

http://www.wibbitz.com/watch/?id=ba7d5455e46104e4b89937b87cd7d3d4f

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Steve Ray on the Seven Sacraments

January 12, 2019

Have you ever wondered about the Biblical roots for the sacraments? Let these talks from Steve Ray be your map to discover the connection between the Sacraments and Sacred Scripture. In this brand new informative and inspiring series, Steve Ray walks through the Seven Sacraments and why they are necessary for our salvation. Using Biblical and historical […]

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Only 2 seats left open with Steve before the end of the year

January 11, 2019

The next four pilgrimages to the Holy Land with Steve Ray are already sold out! Only 2 seats remain open for our February trip. March, May, June (France), September are all sold out! Hope you can jump in and get those last two seats. February is Steve’s favorite month since crowds are down and temperatures […]

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Bible Study: Playground or Minefield?

January 10, 2019

Imagine children running and tussling unsupervised in a playground. Now imagine the playground surrounded by deadly dangers: a sharp cliff dropping down a thousand feet to one side, a field of land mines, poisonous snakes in the sand, and a bog of quicksand on the other sides. With anguish you watch the children decimated as […]

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Explaining to Family Why He Left the Denominations for the Catholic Church

January 9, 2019

This new convert sent me a nice e-mail thanking me. I asked if I could share it on my blog. He agreed but asked to remain anonymous and I agreed. He said, “I converted because I lost all the discussions I had with a Catholic workmate – if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em. One problem […]

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Who Chose the Books of the Bible? Are the Books “Self-authenticating”?

January 8, 2019

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Sherlock Holmes an Idolater – Praying to People?

January 7, 2019

Last night my wife and I were watching an episode of Sherlock Holmes on TV. He has always been one of my favorite characters and I can remember reading all the stories to our kids as they grew up. On TV I think Jeremy Brett does the best portrayal and it is always a delightful […]

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Pilgrims’ Fun, Comments & Farewells

January 6, 2019

Enjoy!

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Last Day: Israel Museum, Jordan River, Jericho, Qumran & Camel Riding

January 6, 2019

Lots of fun and laughs. Enjoy!
Closing homily at Notre Dame here.

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Epiphany? So What?

January 6, 2019

 What is Epiphany anyway? And why should I care? The Feast of the Epiphany – the Magi, the Baptism of Jesus and the Miracle of Cana all combined – is really quite fascinating. It was actually a celebration in the Church long before Christmas was celebrated and eventually overshadowed Epiphany. John Paul II gave 52 […]

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Mass with 2 Protestants and 1 Crucifix

January 5, 2019

A while ago we went to Mass with two Protestants.  As we walked in the door — there it was, as big as life — a CRUCIFIX with the Body of Our Lord hanging over the altar. I knew what the Protestants were thinking — I used to think the same — “CATHOLICS ARE WRONG, JESUS IS […]

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Way of the Cross to Mass on Calvary, Tomb, Western Wall and more

January 5, 2019

In some ways today is the pinnacle of the whole pilgrimage, which is why we start up in Galilee and end up in Jerusalem for the Passion of Christ. Up early in the morning each carrying their own cross as we pray the Stations of the Cross we all arrive at the Church of the […]

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Day 6 Gethsemane, Mt of Olives, Mt Zion, Upper Room and more

January 4, 2019

Today was a great day preparing for the Passion of Christ tomorrow. Mass at Gethsemane (moving homily here soon), the Paternoster Church on Mount of Olives, lunch at a kibbutz, my 30 minute talk overlooking Jerusalem about the story of salvation history. Then we went to the Mount Zion to visit the place Mary fell […]

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A Canon Law Primer on Church Teaching Regarding “Same-sex Marriage”

January 4, 2019

A primer on Church teaching regarding ‘same-sex marriage’ by Dr. Edward Peters STEVE RAY’S INTRODUCTORY COMMENT: This article was written by Canon Lawyer Ed Peters around the time the US Supreme Court foolishingly and arrogantly decided that homosexuals could marry and it was a valid and legal marriage. Now that we have lived with this egregious […]

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