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Cruise Day 12: Free Day at Sea, All Saints Sunday Mass, Stories and Farewell Gathering
A wonderful free day “at sea”, our last day on the ship. The only events were Sunday Mass followed by Fr. James Conlon funny and intriguing vocation story. Following, Steve and Janet Ray’s Conversion Story. Both stories included below on YouTube.
We learned all about that debarcation process, luggage tags, and all the procedures for the following Monday morning. Everyone enjoyed the free day, meals and drinks at multiple restaurants and buffets and all the shows and extravaganzas that the ship provides.
We celebrated All Saints‘ Day Sunday mass, and then Father James told his vocation story, and I told our conversion story. After that, we had a final reception, room set aside, surrounded by windows looking out over the sea. We sat around in a lounge area, talking and chatting, and since everyone knows each other now, it was very warm and intimate. Drinks and food flowed freely. Wonderful day!
Suitcases are out and being taken off the ship tonight, and we gather on deck one and leave together at 7:30.
It’s been a great cruise and we’ve all enjoyed it. We will get off the ship and head directly to Corinth, where Paul lived for 18 months, and he wrote them several letters. Will have an outdoor Mass at the Bema (judgment seat) where Paul was tried.
Purgatory? Absent from the Body = Present with the Lord?
I realize now — that as a Protestant — I misquoted the Bible when challenging Catholics about Purgatory. Catholics taught that there may be a “transition” between earth and heaven—a place or state of final purification called Purgatory.
“But how can there be a Purgatory?” I asked. “Doesn’t St. Paul teach that ‘to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord’? Since ‘absence from the body’ means that we are immediately in ‘the presence of the Lord,’ there can’t be anything called Purgatory. Catholics deny the clear teaching of the Bible!”
Whoa! Slow down! Is this really what the Bible says?
First, that is a misreading of the Bible—a twisting of Scripture to score a point. The Bible does NOT say “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.” Rather it says,
“So we are always of good courage; we know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. We are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Cor 5:6-8).
This is very different from my old argument. Paul would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord, but certainly doesn’t say it the way I twisted it in my old anti-Catholic days.
If I want to be away from Michigan in the winter I might say “In the winter we would rather be away from Michigan and present in Arizona.” It does NOT say that to be away from Michigan that I am instantly or automatically in Arizona.
My in-laws go between Arizona and Michigan twice a year and they stop a lot along the way. It usually takes them 3-4 weeks to get from one to the other as they visit and camp along the way.
We understand that this language leaves room for a transition period—especially in an automobile or plane with a possible motel or visit along the way. Paul’s words also leave room for such a transition; it does not exclude Purgatory.
Second, Paul teaches that we will pass through fire. Notice what he says in 1 Corinthians 3:15: On “the Day” if “any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” Sounds like Purgatory to me.
Third, Purgatory is not “away from the Lord” strictly speaking. Those in Purgatory—whether it is a place or a state of transition—are not apart from the Lord.
In fact, it is the love of God that is purifying them. I have always said that Purgatory is like the front porch of heaven. Those who are in Purgatory know they have arrived! But you can read more about that in my article on Purgatory here.
So, don’t let someone trick you with the old “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord” argument. It is fallacious and deceptive. Again, the Catholic Church is correct.
Cruise Day 11: Thessaloniki, Berea, and my talk on the Bereans and Sola Scriptura
Two videos below: 1) The video of our day in Thessaloniki and Berea, 2) My talk on the Bereans and Sola Scriptura.
Cruise ported in Thessaloniki and no more tenders (sea taxis). Celebrated Mass at the Thessaloniki Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception. The guides gave us the history and biblical significance of this area on our 45-minute drive to Berea. Here I gave my talk about “Sola Scriptura vs. Scripture and Tradition.” I gave the talk at a beautiful mosaic monument to St Paul in the heart of the city. We also walked on the ancient stone roads that Paul walked on 2000 years ago.
Then we stopped at a wonderful Eli’s Restaurant for a good lunch with drinks included. Look at this menu!
Greek Salad, Batzos saganaki (local cheese), grilled Pleurotus mushrooms with honey and balsamic dressing, Beef with eggplant and mashed potatoes, cotta desert.
We took a nap on our 45-minute drive back to Thessaloniki. Thessaloniki is a city to which St. Paul addressed his first two epistles. We saw the White Tower, the majestic statue of Alexander the Great upon his horse, and St. Demetrius’s Orthodox Church. Then back to the ship for free time and dinner and all the multiple shows and entertainment on the ship.
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